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		By: Landen Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Landen Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5022&quot;&gt;Brandes Stoddard&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Brandes, I just wanted to say thank you for the help again. I checked the pages you recommended PHB, you&#039;ve been a huge help!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5022">Brandes Stoddard</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Brandes, I just wanted to say thank you for the help again. I checked the pages you recommended PHB, you&#8217;ve been a huge help!</p>
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		By: Landen Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Landen Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5022&quot;&gt;Brandes Stoddard&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;ve been a huge help! I&#039;m going to check the pages you refer to in the PHB when I get home!
Thanks again!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5022">Brandes Stoddard</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been a huge help! I&#8217;m going to check the pages you refer to in the PHB when I get home!<br />
Thanks again!</p>
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		By: Brandes Stoddard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandes Stoddard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5021&quot;&gt;Landen Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

Natural language might &lt;strong&gt;interpret&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;fireball&lt;/em&gt; as an attack, but in 5e&#039;s language, it isn&#039;t an attack. Something is an attack if makes an attack roll, or if it says it is an attack. Dealing damage isn&#039;t enough, and forcing a saving throw isn&#039;t enough. I haven&#039;t checked all available texts, but basically, if the thing doesn&#039;t fit the precise format laid down in the Player&#039;s Handbook, p. 193-194, it is something other than attack. Check the rules for Grappling to see an example of something that uses a different format, but tells you in the text that it &lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt; an attack.

I am happy to discuss this further if it is helpful to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5021">Landen Johnson</a>.</p>
<p>Natural language might <strong>interpret</strong> <em>fireball</em> as an attack, but in 5e&#8217;s language, it isn&#8217;t an attack. Something is an attack if makes an attack roll, or if it says it is an attack. Dealing damage isn&#8217;t enough, and forcing a saving throw isn&#8217;t enough. I haven&#8217;t checked all available texts, but basically, if the thing doesn&#8217;t fit the precise format laid down in the Player&#8217;s Handbook, p. 193-194, it is something other than attack. Check the rules for Grappling to see an example of something that uses a different format, but tells you in the text that it <strong>is</strong> an attack.</p>
<p>I am happy to discuss this further if it is helpful to you.</p>
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		By: Landen Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Landen Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5020&quot;&gt;Brandes Stoddard&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much for your response, I really appreciate you&#039;re input!
My confusion came in because I couldn&#039;t find anything that clearly defined what constitutes an &#039;attack.&#039; Whether is was something that requires and attack roll or just something that can be considered threatening.
And I couldn&#039;t really decide because, as an example, the fireball spell, I would consider and attack, yet makes no attack roll, and was trying to figure out if this class feature would follow the same kind of mechanic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5020">Brandes Stoddard</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your response, I really appreciate you&#8217;re input!<br />
My confusion came in because I couldn&#8217;t find anything that clearly defined what constitutes an &#8216;attack.&#8217; Whether is was something that requires and attack roll or just something that can be considered threatening.<br />
And I couldn&#8217;t really decide because, as an example, the fireball spell, I would consider and attack, yet makes no attack roll, and was trying to figure out if this class feature would follow the same kind of mechanic.</p>
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		By: Brandes Stoddard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandes Stoddard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5018&quot;&gt;Landen Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

The Storm Herald&#039;s damage aura from the Desert and Sea Storm Auras do not make an attack roll, so you do not satisfy the requirements of the barbarian&#039;s Rage feature.

Colin and others have done some great, incisive writing about what a harsh mistress the Rage feature can be, in terms of shaping a barbarian&#039;s playstyle. I recommend these as top-flight design commentary.

https://standsinthefire.com/2018/02/13/rage-against-the-barbarian/
https://samhaine.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/dd-5e-how-will-you-rage/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-5018">Landen Johnson</a>.</p>
<p>The Storm Herald&#8217;s damage aura from the Desert and Sea Storm Auras do not make an attack roll, so you do not satisfy the requirements of the barbarian&#8217;s Rage feature.</p>
<p>Colin and others have done some great, incisive writing about what a harsh mistress the Rage feature can be, in terms of shaping a barbarian&#8217;s playstyle. I recommend these as top-flight design commentary.</p>
<p><a href="https://standsinthefire.com/2018/02/13/rage-against-the-barbarian/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://standsinthefire.com/2018/02/13/rage-against-the-barbarian/</a><br />
<a href="https://samhaine.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/dd-5e-how-will-you-rage/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://samhaine.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/dd-5e-how-will-you-rage/</a></p>
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		By: Landen Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Landen Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I realize this is pretty old now, but a question that I would like your opinion on... does causing the lightning strike to a creature within the aura count as an attack for the purposes of keeping the barbarian in a rage state?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this is pretty old now, but a question that I would like your opinion on&#8230; does causing the lightning strike to a creature within the aura count as an attack for the purposes of keeping the barbarian in a rage state?</p>
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		By: Marandahir		</title>
		<link>https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-1791</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marandahir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-1790&quot;&gt;Brandes Stoddard&lt;/a&gt;.

It was just a thought. If the cave has air pockets, you might not need more than 6 minutes. 

But clearly, the subclass could be refined. I think there&#039;s merit to projecting an aura of water breathing, but perhaps tying it to the rage mechanic is impractical before 20th level. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-1790">Brandes Stoddard</a>.</p>
<p>It was just a thought. If the cave has air pockets, you might not need more than 6 minutes. </p>
<p>But clearly, the subclass could be refined. I think there&#8217;s merit to projecting an aura of water breathing, but perhaps tying it to the rage mechanic is impractical before 20th level. </p>
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		By: Brandes Stoddard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandes Stoddard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-1787&quot;&gt;Marandahir&lt;/a&gt;.

With a hard upper limit of one minute per rage, and only 6 rages per day before 20th level, I&#039;m going to go out on a limb and suggest that this is not what anyone would call an efficient use of time or energy.

Or, to put that another way, &quot;Excuse me, sir, your bag of rats is showing.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-1787">Marandahir</a>.</p>
<p>With a hard upper limit of one minute per rage, and only 6 rages per day before 20th level, I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb and suggest that this is not what anyone would call an efficient use of time or energy.</p>
<p>Or, to put that another way, &#8220;Excuse me, sir, your bag of rats is showing.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Marandahir		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marandahir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-1788&quot;&gt;Colin McLaughlin&lt;/a&gt;.

:D 

Or better, keep a Kuo-Toa enslaved; you don&#039;t need to grant them water breathing and the aura grants water breathing to your allies, not your enemies!

I&#039;m sort of kidding here, though I could totally see my group coming up with this idea. :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-1788">Colin McLaughlin</a>.</p>
<p>😀 </p>
<p>Or better, keep a Kuo-Toa enslaved; you don&#8217;t need to grant them water breathing and the aura grants water breathing to your allies, not your enemies!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sort of kidding here, though I could totally see my group coming up with this idea. 🙁</p>
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		By: Colin McLaughlin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin McLaughlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tribality.com/2016/11/07/unearthed-arcana-barbarian-primal-paths-breakdown/#comment-1787&quot;&gt;Marandahir&lt;/a&gt;.

While I would certainly play a game set in the New California Republic, I am going to say this is probably not a sustainable long-term solution ;)]]></description>
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<p>While I would certainly play a game set in the New California Republic, I am going to say this is probably not a sustainable long-term solution 😉</p>
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